Come back when Poison: Let there be slaughter debuted in theaters on October 1, fans enjoyed a game-changing, but also extremely confusing ending credits sequence that seemed to push Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) and Venom (also Hardy) into the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). ). And now thanks to Spider-Man: No Way HomeIn the mid-credits sequence, we finally have an explanation of what was going on there, as well as a (mostly) neat recap that still leaves things open for the future.
Spoilers beyond this point, but in Let there be slaughterEddie is chilling out on a bed in a seedy hotel in Mexico, after finishing his epic / truly bizarre battle with Carnage (Woody Harrelson). The Venom symbiote explains to Eddie that it is connected to a hive mind, with a wide range of knowledge that includes the multiverse; And if he gave Eddie full access, it would melt his brain. So instead, he offers to give her a glimpse of that knowledge …
… Only instead, they were plunged into another universe. The same position, a different hotel room, with the Venom symbiote insisting it didn’t do this. And on television are the images of J. Jonah Jameson (JK Simmons) revealing Spider-Man (Tom Holland) as Peter Parker to the whole world, from the end of Spider-Man: Far From Home. Eddie Venoms stands up and the symbiote licks the TV screen and says, “That guy.”
There’s a bit more to the scene where Eddie finds out he’s in someone else’s hotel room, but beyond seemingly throwing Venom into the MCU, there’s a bit of confusion about accessing the hive mind that involves that maybe this was a vision Eddie was having, even if Venom said it wasn’t. Turns out it wasn’t a vision at all … In fact, Eddie made bloop in the MCU, even briefly.
At Spider-Man: No Way Home In the mid-credits scene, we interrupt Eddie, drunk in the hotel bar. He’s stalking a poor bartender to try to explain the MCU to him, because he comes from a universe where there are no superheroes. Confusing, right? The simple, real-world explanation for that is that while the Poison the films are produced by Sony, Spider-Man: No Way Home It is produced by Marvel and Sony, so they are two different universes. Spider-Man, the character, has been shared with Marvel and Disney since Captain America: Civil War, and potentially will continue beyond No way home. Which means Holland’s Spidey will continue in the MCU. As for Venom? We’ll get to that in a second.
After asking about the big purple alien who likes stones (that would be Thanos, by the way), Eddie clarifies that aliens don’t like stones, “aliens love to eat brains.”
The bartender angrily explains to Eddie that Thanos made his family disappear for five years, referring to the event in the MCU called “The Blip,” which seems to make Eddie a bit sober. And it also helps him set up a big showdown when he says, “Maybe I should go to New York and talk to this … Spider-Man.”
However, it is not meant to be. Just when the Venom symbiote is trying to convince Eddie to bathe naked, a bright light surrounds him and sends him back to his own universe. This simply explains how Venom got there in the first place… sort of. In No way home, Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) casts a spell that accidentally sucks in villains from previous Spider-Man movies in the MCU. The condition is that they need to know that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, which means we have a variety of baddies from the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies.
Loyal comic book fans might have noticed, however, that only five of them were in most of the movie: Doc Ock (Alfred Molina), Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe), Electro (Jamie Foxx), Lizard (Rhys Ifans) and Sandman (Thomas Haden Church). In the books, they are five-sixths of a group called The Sinister Six. Turns out out there era A sixth villain came through, and that was Venom… He just didn’t make it to New York in time to get tangled up with the wall-crawler.
As for how Venom knew who Peter Parker was, you can probably give some leeway by saying that the symbiote had knowledge of the multiverse, which is why it had that information from its hive mind. And in particular, there is the fact that Spider man 3 including Venom (Topher Grace), who is casually dropped during the movie proper by Tobey Maguire’s Peter. So if that symbiote was part of the multiversal hive mind, and you knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man, then so does Tom Hardy’s version of the Venom symbiote.
Anyway, Eddie / Venom left the MCU and went back to, I don’t know, tangling with Morbius (Jared Leto) or whatever. But it leaves something behind: a bit of the symbiote on the bar, which extends a small tentacle before the screen turns black. What does that mean? TBD, but the short version is that the Venom symbiote is now officially in the MCU, which means that Sony can have their Venom movies, and the MCU can have a bit of Venom too, as a gift. It remains to be seen if that symbiote will team up with Holland’s Spider-Man, or if Tom Hardy will take on the role in the MCU, or if someone else will get their own goop suit.
At least now we know what nonsense at the end of Let there be slaughter I was about to. Now if someone could explain the nonsense that happened in the previous 90 minutes of Let there be slaughter, that would be great.